tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post113518808110168758..comments2023-11-05T02:42:05.343-05:00Comments on Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Nachos: "If You're Alive in 2005, I Hope You're Exceedingly Thin"Studiodavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16784469805972410740noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135304705467404662005-12-22T21:25:00.000-05:002005-12-22T21:25:00.000-05:00Wow -- a lobbyist that fights for good? That's li...Wow -- a lobbyist that fights for good? That's like telling me there's an automatic weapon that shoots money at underfunded schools.InanimateCarbonRodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12247895134217919954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135300966926827572005-12-22T20:22:00.000-05:002005-12-22T20:22:00.000-05:00Unemployment figures, from what I've been told, re...Unemployment figures, from what I've been told, reflect the amount of people drawing unemployment...once the benefits run out, they are no longer considered unemployed, but they are certainly not in a good situation.<BR/><BR/>And you got it all wrong...while it's true that scientists have proven that eggs contain cholesterol, it hasn't been conclusively proven that eggs raise the level of serum cholesterol in the blood.Isaac Carmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17402890244648619420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135264183143062702005-12-22T10:09:00.000-05:002005-12-22T10:09:00.000-05:00Just shy of a commie, thrillhous...maybe a sociali...Just shy of a commie, thrillhous...maybe a socialist. The firm I work for was created to represent nonprofits, small professional associations and smaller labor unions. No, not much money in it, but I go to sleep at night.<BR/><BR/>An issue that we're working on is not only the availability of good food at food banks, but lowering produce prices (read: sustainable agriculture), so that a family can purchase good fresh food comfortably.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135262105260635592005-12-22T09:35:00.000-05:002005-12-22T09:35:00.000-05:00He's probably one of those egg guys. They got to ...He's probably one of those egg guys. They got to you too, huh?Studiodavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16784469805972410740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135261401497720072005-12-22T09:23:00.000-05:002005-12-22T09:23:00.000-05:00Lobbyist for a food bank? Can't be much money in t...Lobbyist for a food bank? Can't be much money in that. Damn Smitty, what are you, a commie? <BR/><BR/>By the way, this may not be news to anyone, but I'm an idiot. Yesterday, I searched high and low on the internet to get that paper summarized by UPI to no avail; turns out all I had to do was search "food insecurity" at the site I linked to in my previous comment. I need to read over <A HREF="http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/FoodSecurity/" REL="nofollow">the paper</A> in more detail, but it looks like it answers a lot of the questions we have about how they got the data and what all it means. <BR/><BR/>I wouldn't have found it if you hadn't given me a little pushback, TJ. Thanks!Thrillhoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082092153634900636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135259953056579452005-12-22T08:59:00.000-05:002005-12-22T08:59:00.000-05:00In my real day-job, I'm a lobbyist. One of my cli...In my real day-job, I'm a lobbyist. One of my clients is the Food Bank COuncil of Michigan. Food insecurity is a measure they've been using for some time now. I can try to dig up how it's calculated and what it'r relevent to, if anyone is in a crushing hurry to see it.<BR/><BR/>The rise in obesity absolutely jives with food insecurity. Part of that calculation is GOOD food at the table. What the rise in obesity means, especially for those at or below the pverty level, is that they are not buying lean cuts of beef, skinless chicken breasts and raddiccio. They are subsisting on ho-hos and little debbie snack cakes because those are priced in their price range. A head of lettuce may not be.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135256683012636002005-12-22T08:04:00.000-05:002005-12-22T08:04:00.000-05:00I see what you're saying, TJ. You can always find ...I see what you're saying, TJ. You can always find a statistic that says whatever it is you want to say. (nb: "food insecurity" is simply a stand-in for a more familiar, but less susceptible to measurement, concept: hunger.) Mrs. T shows that even the unemployment numbers are deceiving. I wish I could've seen the actual study itself instead of just that little UPI excerpt about it, but I wasn't able to find a copy. However, the USDA has been keeping track of food insecurity and other measurements of American well-being for a long time now; they even have a whole agency devoted to economic research. You can read some of their fascinating reports at this <A HREF="http://www.ers.usda.gov/catalog/CatalogByTopicID.asp?PDT=2&SON=TRUE&PTD=%27Research+Report%27&SBY=TITLE&ARC=_&TID=102504" REL="nofollow"> site</A>.<BR/><BR/>I guess my point is that the standard measurements of our economy, such as unemployment and GDP, don't tell us much about how real people are doing. For instance, most adults who are below the poverty line actually have full employment. Does employment mean much if you can afford basic necessities? Same thing with GDP. Improved GDP doesn't necessarily mean improved economic conditions for regular people. Most of the benefits of improved GDP are not going to workers or small businesses but to the upper echelon, the big business folks and he of the mighty stock portfolio. <BR/><BR/>Long story short, the reason I cited "food insecurity," is that it's a measurement of how real people are faring.<BR/><BR/>By the way, TJ, you are my new hero for the Point Me at the Sky reference. Your check for $40 is in the mail (note: checks will not be honored). <BR/><BR/>Dave, all you did was made me feel bad (for laughing at the Karen Carpenter reference).Thrillhoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082092153634900636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135230018980390152005-12-22T00:40:00.000-05:002005-12-22T00:40:00.000-05:00I've never even heard of food insecurityRead a lit...<I>I've never even heard of food insecurity</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.capitalareafoodbank.org/hunger/who.cfm" REL="nofollow">Read a little</A> about hunger. It's common, and it's everywhere.<BR/><BR/>Unemployment should be mentioned with employment rates and the number of jobs created. Someone not looking for a job isn't unemployed; he's just someone without a job. The unemployment rate can drop simply if some job-seekers give up.<BR/><BR/>When there is a steady increase in the number of food-insecure people, while at the same time the average person is spending a progressively smaller amount of their income on food, I think there's just another indicator that the gap between the rich and poor is widening.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, the average 401(k) balance is <A HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8828075/" REL="nofollow">$61,000</A> while "half of all workers have saved <A HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9980948/from/RL.3/" REL="nofollow">less than $25,000</A> toward retirement." Some people are doing much better than everyone else, and looking at just the average hides the story.Mrs_Thrillhoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096991615655101515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135219244635977812005-12-21T21:40:00.000-05:002005-12-21T21:40:00.000-05:00It does seem that this trend doesn't jive with the...It does seem that this trend doesn't jive with the rise in obesity.Studiodavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16784469805972410740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13930960.post-1135199237363429532005-12-21T16:07:00.000-05:002005-12-21T16:07:00.000-05:00Was it Karen Carpenter?Was it Karen Carpenter?Studiodavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16784469805972410740noreply@blogger.com